> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://creatorscience.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # BONUS: Behind the scenes of Creative Elements and my creative career (Everything Is Marketing) - URL: https://creatorscience.com/podcast/bonus-everything-is-marketing/ - Published: 2021-05-11T15:00:00.000Z - Updated: 2026-10-11T16:39:09.000Z - Description: I wanted to share a little bit of a different episode with you this week. - Author: Jay Clouse - Tags: #podcast, Podcast, Behind The Scenes, Podcasting Episode None # BONUS: Behind the scenes of Creative Elements and my creative career (Everything Is Marketing) I wanted to share a little bit of a different episode with you this week. with **Corey Haines**May 11, 202197 min [Listen now](#listen) [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/creator-science-with-jay-clouse/id1498801064?ref=creatorscience.com) [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/39j9VhklsBs1aLWtkGTWJT?ref=creatorscience.com) More players Listen in your app [![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=podcasts.apple.com&sz=64)Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/creator-science-with-jay-clouse/id1498801064?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=open.spotify.com&sz=64)Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/39j9VhklsBs1aLWtkGTWJT?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=youtube.com&sz=64)YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@jay/?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=overcast.fm&sz=64)Overcast](https://overcast.fm/itunes1498801064/creator-science?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=pocketcasts.com&sz=64)Pocket Casts](https://pocketcasts.com/podcast/creator-science-with-jay-clouse/7db47890-2ff0-0138-96e6-0acc26574db2?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=castro.fm&sz=64)Castro](https://castro.fm/podcast/5f8d5083-92f5-4a4e-a83e-29a773baa95c?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=castbox.fm&sz=64)Castbox](https://castbox.fm/channel/id2626956?ref=creatorscience.com)[![](https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=podcastaddict.com&sz=64)Podcast Addict](https://podcastaddict.com/feed/https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.megaphone.fm%2FTPG4024225475?ref=creatorscience.com)Copy the RSS feed ![Episode None: Corey Haines](https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a8909cbc-6ed0-11eb-ac9a-c77796cb2291/image/206c042131afc134e2227e56a9c6f335.jpg?w=640&h=640&fit=crop&auto=format,compress) ![](https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a8909cbc-6ed0-11eb-ac9a-c77796cb2291/image/206c042131afc134e2227e56a9c6f335.jpg?w=640&h=640&fit=crop&auto=format,compress) Episode None · 97 min BONUS: Behind the scenes of Creative Elements and my creative career (Everything Is Marketing) −15 0:0097:00 +30 1× In conversation with ![](https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a8909cbc-6ed0-11eb-ac9a-c77796cb2291/image/206c042131afc134e2227e56a9c6f335.jpg?w=640&h=640&fit=crop&auto=format,compress) **Corey Haines**Creator of Swipe Files and host of Everything Is Marketing ## What you'll learn - The step by step process of developing Creative Elements - My secret plans of writing a book while I'm building this podcast - How I stair-stepped my way from selling services to selling digital products - And the number of random, lucky breaks that I grabbed ahold of over the years ## About this episode I wanted to share a little bit of a different episode with you this week. Back in episode #49 of this show, I spoke with Corey Haines, the creator of Swipe Files. Corey and I spent the majority of that episode talking about his approach to Product Hunt, and so we didn’t dive *as deeply* into Swipe Files as we probably should have. But a big part of Swipe Files is Corey’s podcast, Everything Is Marketing. And in April, Corey interviewed me for that show. He caught me at a really interesting time. And Corey got me talking about a few things that I’ve never talked about on any other podcast before, including: We cover a lot of ground, and this really goes behind the curtain of both how I make this show and my own creative career up to this point. ## Mentioned in this episode [Listen to my interview with Corey ↗](https://pod.link/1498801064/episode/90478e3897f097f4cd0e7551bad3504d?ref=creatorscience.com)[Full transcript and show notes ↗](https://www.swipefiles.com/everything-is-marketing/22?ref=creatorscience.com) [ ![](https://app.creatorscience.com/courses/card.jpg?v=ea828ce5) Put this episode to work Creator Science Courses Five playbooks built on evidence 2,200+ students · 14-day refund on every courseSee the courses → ](https://app.creatorscience.com/courses?utm%5Fsource=creatorscience.com&utm%5Fmedium=episode-card&utm%5Fcampaign=bonus-everything-is-marketing&utm%5Fcontent=episode) In conversation with ![](https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a8909cbc-6ed0-11eb-ac9a-c77796cb2291/image/206c042131afc134e2227e56a9c6f335.jpg?w=640&h=640&fit=crop&auto=format,compress) **Corey Haines**Creator of Swipe Files and host of Everything Is Marketing Free every Sunday ### Get the ideas from every episode Join **65,000+** creators reading the Creator Science newsletter. 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